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|0001133||VM||Installation||public||2010-03-11 16:02||2011-02-22 15:14|
|Target Version||Fixed in Version||3.60|
|Summary||0001133: Create a production ready VM|
|Description||A new VM should be created which specs are good enough for running in production.|
This triggers some things needing to be done:
Editing the VM page in the wiki, how to change passwords on the Linux user and MySQL user.
Scripts to make the VM production ready (remove executable from sitreset, situpdate etc).
Specs should be:
HDD >= 40GB
Mem >= 512MB
Script to handle network when starting up the first time, or from a script.
backup/restore scripts should be improved.
Feel free to add more things
Current VM in development:
60GB webroot (SiT)
Splash screen with SiT Logo
script/guide to change l10n settings
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Not really sure about this as an idea. Don't think I'd trust running a production system on a machine I'd just downloaded.
Could people just add an additional disk to the existing machine and increase the memory if they wanted to run it in production (we might need to provide instructions).
Also what happens about updates etc it effectively moves the burden of patching etc onto us.
As an asside our install currently have 40G of attachments + the database + the app itself so 40G may be abit limiting? All depends on whos using it
I agree with your thoughts, I took the >=40GB because ericthefish mentioned you have aprox 1 gb of database, and 20gigs of attachments.
it is no problem choosing a larger disksize, it is not going to be allocated until data will be stored on it, thus decreasing performance alittle.
memory size is easy to adjust, just as easy as inputting a number in a text box.
regarding the documentation there is going to be some, but if we give an as-is disclaimer that we are not going to support the OS, just supplying a ready-to-run sit installation, we should be able to give it a try.
this could benefit in people will run the VM rather than xampp for windows ;-)
of course there will be some setup scripts to help the user to set passwords, and what I mentioned in the original post.
I've been wondering for a long time if we should do this, but stopped myself. now today ericthefish questioned about why the vm couldn't run in production, and otherwise for the low amount mem and disk, the ability to crash the server (resetting, upgrading to svn etc), and the weak passwords, it's quite possible to have it as a production server.
the low amount we have in the VM today is to make sure that the test vm can run on most computers.
good thing we have this debate.. now I wonder If it should continue in the forum instead ?
I don't think this should be a separate VM from our existing demo one.
How would we cope with people upgrading their version of SiT on such a machine, as if they don't have Linux skills then could be stuck.
I'm in favor of us distributing an appliance version of SiT though we need to get the upgrade mechanism sort, ideally this would be done 'online' though where someway of this at the moment.
Not sure whether this should be tagged for 3.6 either
|Maybe we should use a BSD for this rather than Ubuntu. Just an idea.|
|Personally I think we should stick to Linux as more people know that (and its more common place in the appliance/test VM market) so would have a higher takeup/acceptance rate. if people what to run SiT on more eclectic platforms they will probably have the skills to do this thereselves|
edited on: 2010-03-17 18:18
Windows only People are quite affraid of just listening to the word Linux, so I guess the target will not be Windows Admins.
People who have a small knowledge regarding Linux might want to try it out.
It's a very small matter to add another harddrive, mount it and have the web folder there.
if people expect large amounts of data, they wouldn't want to run on a VM anyway, and they would most likely prepare the installations themselves.
the VM for 3.60 is ready to go into production (just need SiT3.60), I've changed some of the specs. HDD is now 60GB, Mem is 512MB.
Adding a new disk is easy, adding more mem, even easier.
I've added tools to make the VM production ready.
The same matter in where a server's free hard drive space gets close to be 0 the doesn't matter if it is a VM or a box. issues are the same.
I wouldn't be afraid of putting the VM into production myself.
you are more than welcome to have a go with the new 3.51 version that is ready, let me know and I'll upload it to you (or just download the scripts from the SVN to the existing version)
|No point this sitting unconfirmed any more since it's largely done anyway :-)|
What VM would you use?
Is it VMWare?
edited on: 2010-03-20 23:38
yes it's VMware :-)
you can read alittle about our current VM here
|VM created, and documented so it can be reproduced|
|reopened. to be ready for 3.60|
|VM is production ready after running script "sitproduction", specs for VM set higher|
|2010-03-11 16:02||Tomse||New Issue|
|2010-03-11 16:04||Tomse||Category||other => VM|
|2010-03-11 17:49||paulh||Note Added: 0002648|
|2010-03-11 21:02||Tomse||Note Added: 0002652|
|2010-03-13 13:28||paulh||Note Added: 0002661|
|2010-03-15 11:34||ivan||Note Added: 0002705|
|2010-03-15 11:59||paulh||Note Added: 0002706|
|2010-03-17 18:09||Tomse||Note Added: 0002722|
|2010-03-17 18:18||Tomse||Note Edited: 0002722||View Revisions|
|2010-03-17 20:15||ivan||Status||new => assigned|
|2010-03-17 20:15||ivan||Assigned To||=> Tomse|
|2010-03-17 20:16||ivan||Note Added: 0002725|
|2010-03-20 09:48||Tomse||Description Updated||View Revisions|
|2010-03-20 15:05||Tomse||Description Updated||View Revisions|
|2010-03-20 16:57||ivan||Severity||minor => feature|
|2010-03-20 18:41||sancho78rus||Note Added: 0002762|
|2010-03-20 23:36||Tomse||Note Added: 0002779|
|2010-03-20 23:38||Tomse||Note Edited: 0002779||View Revisions|
|2010-03-21 12:21||Tomse||Note Added: 0002784|
|2010-03-21 12:21||Tomse||Status||assigned => resolved|
|2010-03-21 12:21||Tomse||Fixed in Version||=> Current SVN|
|2010-03-21 12:21||Tomse||Resolution||open => fixed|
|2010-03-21 12:22||Tomse||Note Added: 0002785|
|2010-03-21 12:22||Tomse||Status||resolved => feedback|
|2010-03-21 12:22||Tomse||Resolution||fixed => reopened|
|2010-03-24 13:33||ivan||Project||SiT! => VM|
|2010-03-24 13:33||ivan||Category||VM => (No Category)|
|2010-03-24 16:28||Tomse||Category||(No Category) => Installation|
|2010-03-24 16:28||Tomse||Product Version||3.60 LTS =>|
|2010-03-24 16:28||Tomse||Fixed in Version||Current SVN =>|
|2010-03-24 16:28||Tomse||Target Version||3.60 LTS =>|
|2010-03-28 11:52||Tomse||Note Added: 0002887|
|2010-03-28 11:52||Tomse||Status||feedback => assigned|
|2010-03-28 11:52||Tomse||Status||assigned => resolved|
|2010-03-28 11:52||Tomse||Fixed in Version||=> 3.60|
|2010-03-28 11:52||Tomse||Resolution||reopened => fixed|
|2011-02-22 15:14||ivan||Status||resolved => closed|
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